Posted by Robsterclaw on CoAR - 15 ... If you don't understand the Democrats' version of tax cuts (and you are not alone), maybe this will help explain it:
50,000 people go to a baseball game, but the game was rained out. A refund was then due.
The team was about to mail refunds when the Congressional Democrats stopped them and suggested that they send out refund amounts based on the Democrat National Committee's interpretation of fairness.
After all, if the refunds were made based on the price each person paid for the tickets, most of the money would go to the ticket holders of the most expensive tickets. That would be unfair and unconscionable.
People in the $10 seats will get back $15, because they have less money to spend. Call it an "Earned Income Ticket Credit." Persons "earn" it by demonstrating little ambition, few skills and poor work habits, thus keeping them at entry-level wages.
People in the $25 seats will get back $25, because that's only fair.
People in the $50 seats will get back $1, because they already make a lot of money and don't need a refund. After all, if they can afford a $50 ticket, then they must not be paying enough taxes.
People in the $75 luxury seats will have to pay another $50, because they have way too much to spend.
The people driving (or walking) by the stadium who couldn't afford to watch the game will get $10 each, even though they didn't pay anything in, because they need the most help (sometimes known as Affirmative Action!).
Now do you understand?
If not, contact Representative Nancy Pelosi, Senator Ted Kennedy or Senator Hillary Clinton for assistance.
Friday, January 26, 2007
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Saturday, January 13, 2007
Sporting Clays ranges along the Front Range
Posted by JohnTRourke on CoAR....Most all of these prices are going up a little in 2007.
Quail Run is east of Elizabeth about 10 miles and east of the town of Castle Rock by about 20 miles. It is on the expensive side of the ledger, but they have a very nice piece of land and a clubhouse. They have 20 stations on their clays course and a combined skeet/trap range. They also have a 5 stand range but it has never been working. It is very much a good old boys club and really designed for the membership and people who come all the time. They have a nice pro shop and serve lunch for 1 hour on the weekend. $35 a round
http://www.quailruncolorado.com/
Wolf Creek Closed no longer in business
Kiowa Creek is north of Wolf Creek about 10 miles and about 10 miles south of Bennet off of I-70 east of Denver. This is a very successful range and they cater to the expensive side of shotgunners. They have an elaborate clubhouse and put on many expensive events. It is very well run and it is also very expensive. They also use a computerized clay counting tool for their 20 stations sporting clays course. They do rent golf carts. They have an amazing pro shop and serve lunches and can cater to larger events. All 3 of the above ranges also have bird hunting on their property, either guided or self guided. $40 a round!!
http://www.kiowacreek.com/
Colorado Clays is just off Hwy 76 and Bromely Lane about 10 miles east of east of Brighton. It also is a very successful range, they are the only range that does not offer memberships and it is purely open to the public. They have 5 trap ranges, 2 skeet fields and a 12 station sporting clays course along with a decent clubhouse. They do not have a pro shop per se, but do sell ammo, hats and shirts. They generally do not sell food although they will for larger events. It is very well run and it probably the technically hardest course in the area. $30 a round, $6 a round for skeet or trap (or buy 10 for $50)
http://www.coloradoclays.com/
Pawnee Sportsmen Center is about 20 miles east of Ault or about 40 miles east of Ft Collins. It also contains a rifle range and a pistol range and they are currently building some unknown number of trap and skeet ranges. It is the only sporting clays course in the northern front range. It is a rather boring course, you actually drive along it instead of walk and it has very few trees. All the rest of the clubs including Cottonwood have the shooter walking down a riverbed or streambed in the shade. It is also the cheapest in the area at $25 per round. They do not have a pro shop and do not serve food and they do not do hunting on the property but are associated with some hunting outfitters
http://www.pawneesports.com/
Cottonwood Clays is east and south of Pueblo about 20 minutes from downtown. It's in an isolated area and most of the course is in the river bottom. It's currently pretty run down, but it's $30 a round and it's an interesting course. They also have 5 stand which I believe is $5 a round. It's the only sporting clays course near pueblo or the south side of the springs. You can get there in less than an hour from the Co Springs airport.
http://www.cottonwoodsportingclays.com/
Great Guns Sporting LLC is north of Ault (which is east of Ft Collins)about 8 miles. Apparantly this has actually been around for 9 years, but I never went til just lately. It has a 10 station sporting clays course, 5 trap ranges, 2 skeet ranges and a 5 stand course. They also have bird hunting. Open weekends 8-3, wed/fri 3 til dark. Very well set up targets, not impossible but tricky. well organized and all the stuff is working or new. A round of clays is $30 (only $20 for women or kids under 18!!!!!!!!!!!!!), skeet, trap are $6 and 5 stand is $7. A punch card for trap/skeet is availble for $50. Water and soda are free!!(no kidding, I was amazed myself). One problem, no shade. They have planted a lot of trees and in 5 to 7 years it will be great, but right now, real hot. not a place to go in July. But excellent place, well set up.
http://greatgunssporting.com/
Website for all Clays course in Colorado:
http://www.cscaclub.com/Default.htm
There is also one in Wolcott that's supposed to be awesome and one in Steamboat and one in Monte Vista. I have not been to any of those, it's this summer's project.
Enjoy, great game.
Quail Run is east of Elizabeth about 10 miles and east of the town of Castle Rock by about 20 miles. It is on the expensive side of the ledger, but they have a very nice piece of land and a clubhouse. They have 20 stations on their clays course and a combined skeet/trap range. They also have a 5 stand range but it has never been working. It is very much a good old boys club and really designed for the membership and people who come all the time. They have a nice pro shop and serve lunch for 1 hour on the weekend. $35 a round
http://www.quailruncolorado.com/
Wolf Creek Closed no longer in business
Kiowa Creek is north of Wolf Creek about 10 miles and about 10 miles south of Bennet off of I-70 east of Denver. This is a very successful range and they cater to the expensive side of shotgunners. They have an elaborate clubhouse and put on many expensive events. It is very well run and it is also very expensive. They also use a computerized clay counting tool for their 20 stations sporting clays course. They do rent golf carts. They have an amazing pro shop and serve lunches and can cater to larger events. All 3 of the above ranges also have bird hunting on their property, either guided or self guided. $40 a round!!
http://www.kiowacreek.com/
Colorado Clays is just off Hwy 76 and Bromely Lane about 10 miles east of east of Brighton. It also is a very successful range, they are the only range that does not offer memberships and it is purely open to the public. They have 5 trap ranges, 2 skeet fields and a 12 station sporting clays course along with a decent clubhouse. They do not have a pro shop per se, but do sell ammo, hats and shirts. They generally do not sell food although they will for larger events. It is very well run and it probably the technically hardest course in the area. $30 a round, $6 a round for skeet or trap (or buy 10 for $50)
http://www.coloradoclays.com/
Pawnee Sportsmen Center is about 20 miles east of Ault or about 40 miles east of Ft Collins. It also contains a rifle range and a pistol range and they are currently building some unknown number of trap and skeet ranges. It is the only sporting clays course in the northern front range. It is a rather boring course, you actually drive along it instead of walk and it has very few trees. All the rest of the clubs including Cottonwood have the shooter walking down a riverbed or streambed in the shade. It is also the cheapest in the area at $25 per round. They do not have a pro shop and do not serve food and they do not do hunting on the property but are associated with some hunting outfitters
http://www.pawneesports.com/
Cottonwood Clays is east and south of Pueblo about 20 minutes from downtown. It's in an isolated area and most of the course is in the river bottom. It's currently pretty run down, but it's $30 a round and it's an interesting course. They also have 5 stand which I believe is $5 a round. It's the only sporting clays course near pueblo or the south side of the springs. You can get there in less than an hour from the Co Springs airport.
http://www.cottonwoodsportingclays.com/
Great Guns Sporting LLC is north of Ault (which is east of Ft Collins)about 8 miles. Apparantly this has actually been around for 9 years, but I never went til just lately. It has a 10 station sporting clays course, 5 trap ranges, 2 skeet ranges and a 5 stand course. They also have bird hunting. Open weekends 8-3, wed/fri 3 til dark. Very well set up targets, not impossible but tricky. well organized and all the stuff is working or new. A round of clays is $30 (only $20 for women or kids under 18!!!!!!!!!!!!!), skeet, trap are $6 and 5 stand is $7. A punch card for trap/skeet is availble for $50. Water and soda are free!!(no kidding, I was amazed myself). One problem, no shade. They have planted a lot of trees and in 5 to 7 years it will be great, but right now, real hot. not a place to go in July. But excellent place, well set up.
http://greatgunssporting.com/
Website for all Clays course in Colorado:
http://www.cscaclub.com/Default.htm
There is also one in Wolcott that's supposed to be awesome and one in Steamboat and one in Monte Vista. I have not been to any of those, it's this summer's project.
Enjoy, great game.
Friday, January 12, 2007
The "official-unofficial" CO-AR15.COM puzzle
Posted by 7idl on CoAR. Find these words if you can........coarfcom, stoner, eugene, colt, bushmaster, rockriver, armalite, aimpoint, acog, colorado, upper, lower, mfourgery, fsb, carryinghandle, magazine, teamshoot, fullauto, semiauto, scope, ammo, cartridge, reload, woodlandpark, lyons, pawnee, rifle, carbine, lula, sling, bbadmin
Sunday, January 7, 2007
Thursday, January 4, 2007
FBI report confirms crime rates lower in RTC states
POSTED BY 2NDCHILDHOOD .....The FBI’s report once again confirmed that violent crime rates are lower in states with Right-to-Carry (RTC) laws.
In 2005, RTC states had, on average, 22% lower total violent crime, 30% less murder, 46% lower robbery, and 12% lower aggravated assault rates, compared to the rest of the country.
Tuesday, January 2, 2007
Not a Happy New Year for Denver Broncos
Broncos' Williams Shot to Death in Colo.
By ARNIE STAPLETON, AP Sports Writer
Mon Jan 1, 10:36 PM
DENVER - Broncos cornerback Darrent Williams was killed early Monday when his white stretch Hummer was sprayed by bullets after a nightclub dispute following a New Year's Eve party.
Police have no motive and no indication the 24-year-old player was targeted in the drive-by shooting of the limousine. The burst of violence occurred hours after the Broncos were eliminated from playoff contention.
"All of us are devastated by this tragedy," Broncos owner Pat Bowlen said in a statement. "To lose a young player, and more important, a great young man such as Darrent Williams, is incomprehensible. To lose him in such a senseless manner as this is beyond words."
A little after 2 a.m., the limousine was fired on from a vehicle that pulled up along its side, hitting three people, police spokesman Sonny Jackson said. As many as a dozen bullet holes were visible on the driver's side of the vehicle. One window was blown out.
A man and a woman, Brandon Flowers and Nicole Reindl, were wounded. They were taken to St. Anthony Central Hospital.
Coach Mike Shanahan said the killing left him "speechless with sadness."
"We all know that Darrent was an excellent player, but as a person, he was a first-class young man who brightened every room with his smile, attitude and personality," Shanahan said. "I cannot express how heartsick I feel at this loss."
Jackson said there was a dispute at a nightclub several blocks from the shooting where Williams and his group had attended a party. He said the argument didn't specifically involve Williams, according to witnesses, and the confrontation wasn't physical, just taunts. He also said there were no shots fired from inside the limo.
"Why this happened, we're not sure," Jackson said.
Police were searching for a white Suburban or Tahoe with dark-tinted windows. Jackson wouldn't identify any of the other passengers nor would he confirm whether any other Broncos players were in the limo, which can hold 23 people.
The club identified by police advertised a New Year's Eve event celebrating the birthday of Denver Nuggets basketball player Kenyon Martin. The Nuggets canceled practice Monday.
Martin told The Denver Post that he and several Nuggets left the nightclub before midnight, before any problems arose. "I was there. He was there. I left. I saw him. That was about the extent of it," Martin told the newspaper.
Mark Warkentien, Denver's vice president of basketball operations, said police spoke with him but asked him not to comment. "We'll respectfully honor their request," Warkentien said. "And if the Denver police need us in any way, we'll cooperate fully."
The club _ variously called Shelter or Safari _ is on the second floor of a building in a once-seedy stretch south of downtown that has a growing number of trendy bars, clubs and restaurants. Outside, the building was unmarked except for a big sign from a former occupant, Jonas Bros Furs. Inside, the ceiling was strung with Christmas lights and set off with several fireplaces.
Hours after the shooting, the limo sat in a snowbank beside Speer Boulevard, a main street through downtown. Police and technicians worked amid snow and ice from recent storms, using small yellow plastic markers to indicate possible evidence.
"His heart was so big, he was always giving to those who didn't have," said Williams' mother, Rosalind Williams, who flew to Denver from Fort Worth. "It didn't even have to be for an agency or a charity. If he knew you didn't have, he'd hand it out of his pocket."
The previous active NFL player to die was Thomas Herrion of San Francisco. He had a heart attack following an exhibition game in Denver on Aug. 20, 2005.
Williams was a second-round draft choice in 2005 out of Oklahoma State and teamed with Champ Bailey to give Denver one of the NFL's top cornerback tandems. Williams finished the season with 88 tackles, 78 of them solo, and four interceptions.
His college coach, Mike Gundy, called the death a "tragic loss for the Broncos family, Oklahoma State University and anyone who knew Darrent Williams. It's a loss that goes far beyond the football field."
Players and coaches didn't have to report to work Monday but about 20 of them gathered at team headquarters to console each other, including receiver Javon Walker, who was in the limo when Williams was killed, according to several Denver media organizations.
Walker, who declined to speak with reporters, appeared to have blood spattered across his shirt when he arrived at the Broncos' facilities.
"Any time you lose a guy who was close to everyone, it hurts," punter Paul Ernster said. "From the get-go, he was like one of your good friends."
Anthony Criss, Williams' high school football coach in Fort Worth, Texas, said: "When he was younger, he always gravitated to the wrong crowd. I remember he went to church and the minister was talking to him about needing to pray and stop hanging around with the wrong people, and he started straightening up and doing the right thing."
In December, Williams spoke of returning to his hometown this offseason to talk to youngsters about staying out of gangs. Williams, who has two young children in the Fort Worth area, recently talked to Criss about establishing a free football camp for youth players.
"He wanted to be a good parent, a good father, a good example for his kids," Criss said. "He will be missed."
Williams' family was trying to arrange a funeral Saturday at the Great Commission Baptist Church in Fort Worth.
Last April, Nuggets guard Julius Hodge was shot while driving on Interstate 76 in Denver. In 2003, Pittsburgh Steelers linebacker Joey Porter, who played at Colorado State, was shot outside a Denver sports bar.
"Since then, I carry myself in a different type of way," Porter said Monday. "I respect my situation whenever I go out. I take a whole different outlook when I go out. I make sure I feel like I'm safe and if I'm not, I'm not going."
By ARNIE STAPLETON, AP Sports Writer
Mon Jan 1, 10:36 PM
DENVER - Broncos cornerback Darrent Williams was killed early Monday when his white stretch Hummer was sprayed by bullets after a nightclub dispute following a New Year's Eve party.
Police have no motive and no indication the 24-year-old player was targeted in the drive-by shooting of the limousine. The burst of violence occurred hours after the Broncos were eliminated from playoff contention.
"All of us are devastated by this tragedy," Broncos owner Pat Bowlen said in a statement. "To lose a young player, and more important, a great young man such as Darrent Williams, is incomprehensible. To lose him in such a senseless manner as this is beyond words."
A little after 2 a.m., the limousine was fired on from a vehicle that pulled up along its side, hitting three people, police spokesman Sonny Jackson said. As many as a dozen bullet holes were visible on the driver's side of the vehicle. One window was blown out.
A man and a woman, Brandon Flowers and Nicole Reindl, were wounded. They were taken to St. Anthony Central Hospital.
Coach Mike Shanahan said the killing left him "speechless with sadness."
"We all know that Darrent was an excellent player, but as a person, he was a first-class young man who brightened every room with his smile, attitude and personality," Shanahan said. "I cannot express how heartsick I feel at this loss."
Jackson said there was a dispute at a nightclub several blocks from the shooting where Williams and his group had attended a party. He said the argument didn't specifically involve Williams, according to witnesses, and the confrontation wasn't physical, just taunts. He also said there were no shots fired from inside the limo.
"Why this happened, we're not sure," Jackson said.
Police were searching for a white Suburban or Tahoe with dark-tinted windows. Jackson wouldn't identify any of the other passengers nor would he confirm whether any other Broncos players were in the limo, which can hold 23 people.
The club identified by police advertised a New Year's Eve event celebrating the birthday of Denver Nuggets basketball player Kenyon Martin. The Nuggets canceled practice Monday.
Martin told The Denver Post that he and several Nuggets left the nightclub before midnight, before any problems arose. "I was there. He was there. I left. I saw him. That was about the extent of it," Martin told the newspaper.
Mark Warkentien, Denver's vice president of basketball operations, said police spoke with him but asked him not to comment. "We'll respectfully honor their request," Warkentien said. "And if the Denver police need us in any way, we'll cooperate fully."
The club _ variously called Shelter or Safari _ is on the second floor of a building in a once-seedy stretch south of downtown that has a growing number of trendy bars, clubs and restaurants. Outside, the building was unmarked except for a big sign from a former occupant, Jonas Bros Furs. Inside, the ceiling was strung with Christmas lights and set off with several fireplaces.
Hours after the shooting, the limo sat in a snowbank beside Speer Boulevard, a main street through downtown. Police and technicians worked amid snow and ice from recent storms, using small yellow plastic markers to indicate possible evidence.
"His heart was so big, he was always giving to those who didn't have," said Williams' mother, Rosalind Williams, who flew to Denver from Fort Worth. "It didn't even have to be for an agency or a charity. If he knew you didn't have, he'd hand it out of his pocket."
The previous active NFL player to die was Thomas Herrion of San Francisco. He had a heart attack following an exhibition game in Denver on Aug. 20, 2005.
Williams was a second-round draft choice in 2005 out of Oklahoma State and teamed with Champ Bailey to give Denver one of the NFL's top cornerback tandems. Williams finished the season with 88 tackles, 78 of them solo, and four interceptions.
His college coach, Mike Gundy, called the death a "tragic loss for the Broncos family, Oklahoma State University and anyone who knew Darrent Williams. It's a loss that goes far beyond the football field."
Players and coaches didn't have to report to work Monday but about 20 of them gathered at team headquarters to console each other, including receiver Javon Walker, who was in the limo when Williams was killed, according to several Denver media organizations.
Walker, who declined to speak with reporters, appeared to have blood spattered across his shirt when he arrived at the Broncos' facilities.
"Any time you lose a guy who was close to everyone, it hurts," punter Paul Ernster said. "From the get-go, he was like one of your good friends."
Anthony Criss, Williams' high school football coach in Fort Worth, Texas, said: "When he was younger, he always gravitated to the wrong crowd. I remember he went to church and the minister was talking to him about needing to pray and stop hanging around with the wrong people, and he started straightening up and doing the right thing."
In December, Williams spoke of returning to his hometown this offseason to talk to youngsters about staying out of gangs. Williams, who has two young children in the Fort Worth area, recently talked to Criss about establishing a free football camp for youth players.
"He wanted to be a good parent, a good father, a good example for his kids," Criss said. "He will be missed."
Williams' family was trying to arrange a funeral Saturday at the Great Commission Baptist Church in Fort Worth.
Last April, Nuggets guard Julius Hodge was shot while driving on Interstate 76 in Denver. In 2003, Pittsburgh Steelers linebacker Joey Porter, who played at Colorado State, was shot outside a Denver sports bar.
"Since then, I carry myself in a different type of way," Porter said Monday. "I respect my situation whenever I go out. I take a whole different outlook when I go out. I make sure I feel like I'm safe and if I'm not, I'm not going."
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